Hic, hic

September 4, 2007 at 9:27 am (alcohol)

How do you feel about alcohol? I’m curious because I don’t drink. I was reading the Sunday Times and saw the thing about universities and their concern about drunk students.
And of course a very unsober Pretoria judge who happens to be facing heavy charges even though he threw his condsiderable legal weight around to get the thing swept under the carpet.
I recall my varsity days were booze-filled (although it was my buddies drinking not me, I did see the copious amounts of drink being consumed).
I’ve been thinking about the alcohol thing more and more because so many people I know want to stop. But what makes it so hard to quit?
I know it’s not a self-control thing because many of my friends are normal, clever, strong-willed people. So what is it about booze that makes it so addictive?
I’m hoping someone can share their thoughts. I’d hate to have to ask Manto…



  1. madamm said,

    Well, I used to like a drink or seven back in the day. I’m talking stroh rum and stuff. Although it didn’t lead to any illicit actitivities, I finally got over it when I was in the States. I looked around me, at people I didn’t really know and it didn’t look like fun anymore

  2. Toby Hanks said,

    So it wasn’t as if your body craved it then? Or was it just a mental awareness of what alcohol does to your body?

  3. The Divine Miss M said,

    My body doesn’t crave it but the desire to fit in and do as most of my friends are doing is what makes me drink in such a high amount. Some of my friends call me a wuss or a lightweight if I chose to go home after work on a Friday and not engage in an all night drinking session.

    My body doesn’t crave the alcohol and as I have proven in other evenings of not drinking I can do it but there is just something entertaining about losing my inhibitions and acting like the idiot I probably am without a care in the world 😉

    But most likely it is just the peer pressure you get from your friends

  4. Toby Hanks said,

    Aaaah, that sounds like a reasonable argument, Divine Miss M. I’m rather antisocial so don’t have to deal with peer pressure (fortunately?).
    I’m glad to hear your body doesn’t crave it though because that confirms (for me anyway) that it’s purely a mental thing. Given what you and Mrs M say, if you really want to, you can. Right?

  5. The Divine Miss M said,

    I can stop drinking if I want too … but the question is, do I want to?

  6. madamm said,

    I hardly drink. I’m talking a glass of wine with a meal twice a month. Maybe.
    And I don’t crave it (nicotine addiction being a whole different kettle of fish)- it really is mental though.
    I know this sounds ignorant, but I never understood why people drown their sorrows in a bottle. Who wants to get hammered by themselves? Drinking=socialising=partying=being silly/young, etc. As soon as I realised that I was what is considered in most circles to be a form of bingeing (never moderate) it wasn’t cool anymore.
    Now one glass with a meal occasionally is enough. That and the fact that I prefer the theatre/movies/visiting friends to drinks after work.

  7. Toby Hanks said,

    If you don’t want to Divine Miss M, then obviously you don’t have to. I just wondered about people who say they can’t go without it or those who say they want to stop but then don’t and moan about how they can’t.
    Mrs M, sad people get hammered by themselves. It’s like slow suicide, I think. I prefer those other things too and preferably with people who are not falling over/slurring/demanding wine loudly/not being sober enough to have a decent convo/etc.

  8. madamm said,

    you don’t got to stop Miss M…just don’t hit the bottle on the sly!

  9. The Divine Miss M said,

    Ah, so you mean all those sneaky glugs of vodka I have at work aren’t allowed?

    Damn. How am I supposed to get through the day …

  10. madamm said,

    Smoke a entjie

  11. Toby Hanks said,

    Ha, ha. We really have someone at work who has a bottle in the drawer…

  12. The Divine Miss M said,

    Ha, ha, Seriously?! That is hectic … I had a litre bottle in my drawer last week but we all know what happened to that!

  13. Toby Hanks said,

    Ja, seriously. It gets a bit mad on this floor sometimes. Magazine people are not nearly as civilised as they try to appear!

  14. The Divine Miss M said,

    Neither are TV people – I’ve seen some pretty ugly personality clashes that remind me of visiting a zoo during it’s peak time

  15. madamm said,

    Drinking on the job? The only thing worse than that is catching someone masturbating under their desk.

  16. Toby Hanks said,

    I’d take a desk drinker to a desk masturbater any old day!

  17. The Divine Miss M said,

    *shakes head*

    This conversation has reached a dodgy level

  18. madamm said,

    dodge schmodge, we’ve heard it all before.

  19. The Divine Miss M said,

    I heard a story from a security guy from a well known store in London how he used to find men in the lingerie department masturbating behind the mannequins … EEWWW

  20. Gnome said,

    Too bad I missed this little interesting discussion 🙂 I also used to enjoy drinking. Sometimes would drive home (EEK) at 4 and then go to church at 9. Shameful. Now don’t drink anymore – like Mrs M, a glass of wine occasionally. But just last night I was thinking how I sometimes miss it. I mean, not getting hammered, just getting a little tipsy, uninhibited and naughty. We were at a friend’s sundowner birthday party last night, but our current group of friends is rather… conservative. So one glass of wine is enough. I would have enjoyed a few more. Unlike Divine Miss M I feel pressurised NOT to drink 🙂

  21. Toby Hanks said,

    Oh Divine Miss M, you ain’t heard nothing if you think this is dodgy…
    I can’t think of anything worse than men masturbating to mannequins. Except men masturbating to dead people.

  22. Toby Hanks said,

    That’s fab Gnome. I think it’s all about knowing your limits – or being able to deal with the consequences if you don’t adhere to your limits!

  23. madamm said,

    I HATE feeling like crap the next day, also part of why I stopped the bingeing. Plus I usually talk rubbish, but I was tipsy last week- with my husband.
    uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh- masturbating to dead people. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

  24. madamm said,

    I HATE feeling like crap the next day, also part of why I stopped the bingeing. Plus I usually talk rubbish, but I was tipsy last week- with my husband.
    uuuuuuuuuuuuuugh- masturbating to dead people. uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugh

  25. The Divine Miss M said,

    Ye, I hate the crap feeling the next day. I am actually trying to cut down on the amount that I drink to be honest with you. I am bored of the fact that in London what everyone does is get as drunk as possible outside of work hours (And if you work in Toby’s office during work hours) and am trying to find myself a hobby. Gym seems ok, but what else can I do?

    I’m going rock climbing on Saturday, that’ll be amusing.

    EEWW EEWWW EEEWWW to the dead people!

  26. madamm said,

    Scuba! Scuba.
    Or enroll for a masters.

    I highly recommend scuba

  27. The Divine Miss M said,

    Scuba in London? Yes, I can see that now. And here floating past you in the lovely Thames in one of our indigenous floating shoes closely followed by the remains of someone’s uneaten kebab ..

    Yes, I can’t wait

  28. Toby Hanks said,

    Mrs M would you care to share you rock/mountain climbing escapades? I quite like the idea of scuba diving. *Toby imagines doing a Little Mermaid body wiggle under the water*

  29. Toby Hanks said,

    LOL Divine Miss M. Uneaten kebab…ha, ha. Hey, if Lewis Pugh can do it, why the hell not? We dare you dear…post pictures so we can applaud at the proof.

  30. The Divine Miss M said,

    Uh huh, somehow that isn’t going to happen.

    Share MrsM share! 😉 I see a new blog post coming …

  31. Toby Hanks said,

    Alwweeeeer! It’s me, not Gnome. Die ding werk regtig soms op my moer!

  32. Toby Hanks said,

    Mrs M, show your pictures meisie. Let the people know you have conquered the master of the jungle’s head!

  33. The Divine Miss M said,

    That sounded bad …

  34. madamm said,

    I’ll never ever do it again though. I wrote about it here:

    Well, now that I think about it the scubah doesn’t sound lekker in London…you guys have pebbles for sand.

  35. Toby Hanks said,

    Ahem, um, I see now what you mean about it sounding bad…
    Mrs M, you rock girl. When I go to London I’ll swim the Thames… ha, ha. Just before I fall off the bed and wake up.

  36. The Divine Miss M said,

    If you do you might come out with 3 eyes and a penis.


  37. Toby Hanks said,

    A penis? Oh nee dankie vir dit. They’re ugly!

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